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#1002290 2017 Jaguars Yardstick For Success

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 15 May 2017 - 03:54 PM

I'm going by the strictest definition of your chosen wording and voting 9 wins. I'm not sure you can call a season a "success" without a winning record unless you somehow win the division at .500 or below which is a rare occurrence for a team to do. I could see using the word "content" to describe a season at 7-9 or 8-8, but to be considered successful let's win more games than we lose and then build from there.

#1001782 Jags Will Win 10-12 Games This Year

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 11 May 2017 - 05:11 PM

I've seen it and it was badly misguided. All defenses face short fields or turnovers/special teams plays that go for TDs. Most defenses also hand some of those back to the offense. The Jaguars defense didn't do that. They were terrible at creating turnovers, and they weren't good enough at making critical stops late in games.


You can try to equivocate it by coming up with stats like trying to reassign points to other phases of the team instead of the defense, but the defense was not some strength of the team getting a raw deal from the rest of the team, the defense wasn't good enough, either.


Like I said, there's a clear emotional attachment to the guy for some based on what he did in 2015.  It's the only explanation.  Had you actually read the thread, you probably wouldn't have made the implication that all teams deal with short fields at about the same rate because it simply isn't true.


Although I didn't compare the entire league in that thread, the most important comparisons are within the division which I did do.  Here's the cliffs notes:  The Jaguars had 23 combined instances (Offense/ST plays that resulted in field position inside the 45 for the other team) of turning the ball over deep in their own territory or ST gaffes.  Four of those resulted in defensive TDs for the other team and 3 more were game ending interceptions (a whole other issue) where the game was still in question and within one score at the time. So 16 short fields plus 7 of what I will call back-breakingly negative Offense/ST plays.


The tinhorns had 13 total instances with 3 resulting in defensive scores for the other team.  That's 10 short fields plus 3 back breaking plays.


The clots had 11 total instances with 2 resulting in defensive scores for the other team.  That's 9 short fields and 2 back breaking plays.


The tacks had 11 total instances with 6 resulting in defensive scores for the other team.   That's 5 short fields and 6 back breaking plays


The Jags defense clearly dealt with significantly more bad hands dealt to them by their own offense and special teams than any other team in the division by a wide margin and I'd venture a guess they were probably dealt one of the worst hands in the league last year.  If you feel these are made up stats or that 23 is about the same as 13 or 11 or that 16 is about the same as 10, 9 or 5, I don't know what to tell you.  This isn't earth shattering stuff.  Scoring for the other team and handing them short fields loses games.  

The defense needs to get more turnovers for sure, no one is saying otherwise.  However, they were clearly carrying more water last year than the offense or special teams, especially as the season wore on and they might have gotten more turnovers had some of those short fields been longer.  To shift blame toward them and away from the QB, who was responsible for most of those negative plays, is ridiculous.

#1001045 Jags Will Win 10-12 Games This Year

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 07 May 2017 - 11:34 AM

It's very possible, probable even, that we as fans over rate our own players as we've apparently been doing for the past 9 seasons.  I've heard this 10+ win projection every off season.  I've even participated in it some in years past.  We're still dealing with a lot of unknowns at this point in time and this projection is likely going to rely on some heavy contributions by rookies which historically you can't count on.  I do think a healthy Fournette gets 1200+ rushing yards and I do think we win more games because of it, but 12 wins could have us vying for a playoff bye and that just seems a little lofty to me at this point given where we were just last December.


Let's get through mini-camp, training camp and pre-season unscathed first.  This rush to proclaim 10, 11, 12 wins in May hasn't worked out so well for those who've done it in the past.

#1000286 Which team won the 2017 NFL Draft? Browns, Jags, 49ers lead the pack

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 02 May 2017 - 02:14 PM

Isn't this a 3 out of the last 4?

We're a dynasty guys! Never thought we'd get here, but here we are!

My reaction to us being crowned champs for the 3rd time in 4 years:


#999817 Blake Bortles 5th Year Option

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 01 May 2017 - 09:53 AM

Sign Kapernick. All i hear this coaching staff say is we are always looking to upgrade at every position. Well u can upgrade or at least give Blake real competion with Kapernick.

Jacksonville has a strong military presence and the Jags value their partnership with the military here. This isn't the market for Kapernick's politics.

#998919 What have we learned

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 29 April 2017 - 02:48 PM

Tough stat to corroborate, but this is what I've found and must've been what the analyst was referring to:




Jags were #1 in man blocking schemed run plays in pre-contact yards.


EDIT: Here's the original link:




Saw it on twitter somewhere too.

#998710 ***Official 2017 NFL Draft Thread***

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 29 April 2017 - 12:42 PM

Pittsburgh Steelers select... Sloth


#998551 Pick 110: Dede Westbrook, WR, Okalhoma

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 29 April 2017 - 11:29 AM

Has to be BAP.    Maybe a fallback plan for when either Lee or A. Rob bails next season.

I think that's exactly what it is. They aren't anticipating being able to re-sign both Lee and Robinson after this year especially if they both show up and have strong seasons and they're going to hold the franchise tag to use on Blake if need be and not pick up the 5th year option on him.

#997507 Some good footage on Fournette

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 28 April 2017 - 02:44 PM

People said MJD was going to break all of Fred's records when he was playing.  Let's slow our roll on the Fournette is going to be better than Fred talk.  There are MANY things that could happen that would prevent that line of thinking from being the case.  At the very least, let's get thru rookie mini camp and training camp first.  Have we not learned anything?

#995980 Letter from the Jaguars Future - Terminator Style

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 27 April 2017 - 12:51 AM

I'm going to McDonald's, yall want anything?

Let me get a McPick 6. Buh dah...dah... dah dah

#994585 Nfl gives jags toughest schedule again!

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 20 April 2017 - 07:46 PM

What makes this schedule more difficult than any one else's?

#993909 What happened to the message board?

Posted by Jaguarmeister2017 on 15 April 2017 - 04:33 PM

Well my Macbook running Sierra 10.11.6 is where I was clearing cookies and was allowed to then access and view the site. When I tried logging back into my original account here on my Macbook I started getting the same issues as before. My PC running Windows 10 won't let me view the site regardless of whether I clear cookies out of my browsers or not.